There's ton of other stock UT type maps.... Bitchslap, Dreamus, Steelmill, Spiffengrad, CaptainGordon's etc. They hardly get played. I like them. I've been "toning down" the newer maps... Even some that I put on here recently, like ArtilleryHill, ArenaofEvil are pretty close to "stock" Randomizers are kind of the place for over the top OP, or one off maps like MassDestruction.captainsnarf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:51 pm It's also one of the reasons I think masterbath is one of the favorite maps. It's mostly stock UT.
That being said here, the player base mostly likes Tanks. They will vote DJY, AJY, Nevermore all day long. If there's too many flyers they complain...even about Falcons and Dragons (much bitching about Dragon 8/9 camping on Minus before I put in the jumppads on some versions). Sadly, much of the player base prefers 2D play vs 3D. And if you wanna hear howling, put a map out without "fully loaded weapon lockers"...yep..avrils or no bio with the mino and there will be mucho bitching. I agree its nicer when getting an Avril/Battery Launcher would be be a strategic move.. I even did that on several maps where you could go get the upgraded Avril--the Battery Launcher either no one got it (only a few here actually review a map to learn it..they just ask in game chat "What's on this map? Where's the deemer? etc.) or because of some of the vehicles it didn't make much difference.
I think slowing down some of the flyers is a good thing. Its better for the engine/hit registration IMO, and better for game play. We can have flyer focused maps, but they won't get played often (see Slated, or Magic Isle )