Admin's Choice, map forcing.

[pooty]

FYI.

Just to let everyone know, Admins have the power to force a map. Please expect this might happen once a night or so.

We aren't trying to be power hungry mongers, just that many of us, admins and players, love variety of different maps vs. Dria,AJY,Minus,DJY, Minus, HSH repeats. We like those maps too, but we also have newer maps that need play testing with real humans and other good maps that often don't get played much, so occasionally a map will get forced.

I'd ask everyone be a good sport and give them a try.

[captainsnarf]

Thanks Pooty! I've been taking some liberties here I forced ONS-ChainIsle last night.

"No DM Map. Go on DM server"

We have some maps that are pretty close, like ONS-Rail and ONS-Grendelkeep, which have no vehicles. I will leave those up to the vote. But others which are a bit more balanced between vehicles and players, like ChainIsle and Tyrant, I will be forcing more often, and also forcing Random and the occasional VCTF.

It really comes down to not wanting to admin or produce content for a server that I don't want to play on. I can either leave the server, or make it a place I want to play. I've spent too many nights playing maps I don't want to play just hoping for the one time Masterbath might get voted. We'll still be playing plenty of Minus, Junkyard, and Dria, but it won't be all night, every night.

[McLovin]

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I've spent too many nights playing maps I don't want to play
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[pooty]

I'd counter not-so-wise. Sometimes a map you think you don't like will either grow on you, or just turn out to be a good match.

And there's plenty of not often voted Tank style maps too, even a bunch of "randomizers" that aren't JY, Minus, Dria.

And I still haven't played TableTop on the server yet... coming soon.

[captainsnarf]

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I've spent too many nights playing maps I don't want to play
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That's easy for you to say. You play the (only) map you want to play every day. If I joined the server early with some friends and out-voted BadgerMeUp every day for months, would you still play? would you force badgermeup?

[McLovin]

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That's easy for you to say. You play the (only) map you want to play every day. If I joined the server early with some friends and out-voted BadgerMeUp every day for months, would you still play? would you force badgermeup?

When others are already on the server, and it's early in the day, I never force badgermeup. I always ask first if it is ok with everyone. If anyone "usually Phariz" doesn't want it, I don't force it.

[McLovin]

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Sometimes a map you think you don't like will either grow on you, or just turn out to be a good match.
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[captainsnarf]

How many times in the last year did you join the server to play, and weren't able to play BadgerMeUp? I'd put money that it's close to zero.

You ask me for new zounds. Why would I add new zounds on a server I don't play on? It's unpaid volunteer work that I don't even get the gratification if hearing.

Pooty will spend evenings and weekends working on new maps for the server. Nobody votes them. I have zero problems if Pooty forces it. A lot of the content on the server that players enjoy is there because Pooty did the work, like all the randomizers. The least we can do is play the new maps when he puts them up. Otherwise why would Pooty even do the work at all?

[Enyo]

Admins forcing maps from time to time is fine and probably necessary to retain the better players. If it sheds some stains in the process, so be it.

I like most our maps including Randomizers with few exceptions, and also get tired of the same ones repeatedly, but I still don't get why snarf hates so many of our maps. Is it the repetitiveness of playing them or the maps themselves?

[McLovin]

I'm all for admins forcing maps. The repetition is getting ridiculous to many.

Forcing maps is way better than implementing "map packs". Map packs smacks of "book burning" to me. And reducing choice is EVIL.