Grapple Gun on Everymap..

[pooty]

So someone suggested we put grapple guns on every map. A few other players supported it.

What does everyone think?

On many maps I think it makes sense when you run out of vehicles or to help fast starts...

On the other hand, it can change the flow of the map since a single raptor can "transport" mutliple people to a node. It will also change play somewhat as it will make it easy to drop snipers in areas of a map that you couldn't get to without abandoning your flyer.

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I voted "no" but lean toward "yes, but select maps". Most people never use the grapple gun, so maybe it won't make much of a difference whichever way we go... I just think that if using them becomes ubiquitous, then we're changing the game pretty significantly.

[captainsnarf]

I'm all for it. If you think it changes the game away from default ONS too much well, I got news for you

We have a bunch of random stuff on the server now. We've tried to steer away from becoming a UMD server. We do not have WoE + Sentinel Steroids on every map or berzerk mutator like MIA.

But grapple gun is different. It's not "op" - it doesn't even do damage. It changes the game yes, but it will facilitate more teamwork which I think is always good.

I like that we have TAM shield gun. Did that change ONS too much? It just made shield jumps easier for the noobs.

[Rhamp]

I'm on the yes by default, but have a way to be able to disable them on certain maps. On most vehicle heavy maps, having the grapple makes it so much better to play on foot and easier to shuttle people to nodes at the start. Don't need to ghetto stack 5 players on a manta when they can all grapple to it.

There are some maps where the grapple sould be disabled, for example if there is a flier that lets a bunch of players grapple to it to shuttle them to bypass a mechanic of the map.

[Super Sanka]

Yes.

[pooty]

I'm on the yes by default, but have a way to be able to disable them on certain maps.

Example? The one that comes to mind is DJY or Minus-TMU since the have few flyers... more on DJY since it doesn't have boards (which IMO are more breaking than grapple gun).

[YEAAAHHHHHHHHHH]

I'm on the yes by default, but have a way to be able to disable them on certain maps.

Example? The one that comes to mind is DJY or Minus-TMU since the have few flyers... more on DJY since it doesn't have boards (which IMO are more breaking than grapple gun).

Please not DJY. I think it'd be pretty annoying to go through all the work of clearing out a node to only have someone zip in there with a skateboard and run you over or hit you with the NoskillZ flak cannon while you're building a node.

[pooty]

Please not DJY. I think it'd be pretty annoying to go through all the work of clearing out a node to only have someone zip in there with a skateboard and run you over or hit you with the NoskillZ flak cannon while you're building a node.

That's my point grapple guns much less than boards -- boards can be map breaking.
My thoughts were on DJY, would grapples change it too much?

[YEAAAHHHHHHHHHH]

Please not DJY. I think it'd be pretty annoying to go through all the work of clearing out a node to only have someone zip in there with a skateboard and run you over or hit you with the NoskillZ flak cannon while you're building a node.

That's my point grapple guns much less than boards -- boards can be map breaking.
My thoughts were on DJY, would grapples change it too much?

Off the top of my head it would change the very start of the map with the two hammerheads going to primaries. Now that doesn’t matter as much, just grapple. Can we try adding them to DJY Randomizer? To me, DJY is such a classic map and I’d be hesitant to change any of it.

[Super Sanka]

DJY is shit because if you don't get a flyer you'll spend the map driving a slow ass tank and being late to every fight. Grapples would at least help alleviate some of that.