ONS-HomeSweetHome Randomizer

[Enyo]

Can someone please remove the OMFG gun from this map? It's only served to turn the map into who can get through the light with it first, making all other strategies for attacking 1/4 bedroom nodes pointless unless a Q36 UFO spawns (which is even more map breaking).

[Canon Fodder]

Totally agree.

[Rhamp]

Maybe the OMFG could be made into a respawning pickup similar to a nuke. That way you won't have a flood of OMFG spammers, but it still is there as a tool to kill the levi or a node. Removing it outright makes being on foot go from op to useless.

[pooty]

There's enough on there to kill the levi (is it the 10000 hp kraken?) as it is. Plenty of highpowered vehicles.

In addition to the guy in the light spamminmg, it makes it way too easy to suppress 5.

Removing it would be better. For now you could replace it with a nuke.

I think to do the pickup thing it might have to be recoded? Not sure.

[Enyo]

If it’s not removed it certainly needs to be moved far away from the lights, like maybe the 1/4 bedroom nodes. At least make players have to work to get at it.

As it is now it allows a total stain to be “OP on foot.” Players that are a good shot are plenty deadly enough on foot on this map, especially when they grab the keg of whoopass. Cali, Sanka, Patience (Patty) or Anon have no problems picking off flyers on foot.

Not sure replacing it with a deemer would be much better. It would have the same issue of grab it from the ledge and jump through the light portal and take out 1/4 over and over. The problem is the location. Maybe the super nuke in the middle of the vent should be changed to the OMFG. There’s 4 other nukes already on the map, exchanging the fifth one for the OMFG is a fair compromise and makes it harder to get to.

[captainsnarf]

Just change the teleporters. You shouldn't be able to teleport from your primary to opposite bedroom. It should only go to your bedroom

[pooty]

Just change the teleporters. You shouldn't be able to teleport from your primary to opposite bedroom. It should only go to your bedroom

Just delete the map.

The teleporters were put in because without them, the sniper crowd just sits in a mech or such and zaps every flyer coming... and then the map stalemates even worse....

I think the teleporters are fine, remove the omfg. Or might as well put deemers in the weapon lockers.

If it’s not removed it certainly needs to be moved far away from the lights, like maybe the 1/4 bedroom nodes. At least make players have to work to get at it.

Maybe the super nuke in the middle of the vent should be changed to the OMFG. There’s 4 other nukes already on the map, exchanging the fifth one for the OMFG is a fair compromise and makes it harder to get to.

I think this is fair, remove it from the current spots.. put it right in the middle...hard to get to and then get back to the lights.

[Rhamp]

I definitely like swapping the OMFG with the nuke in the vent. To make the OMFG behave like a nuke in terms of it having a pickup delay, the weapon base can be replaced with an ammo pickup, like an OMFG ammo pickup. The pickup type can be set in the editor to be an OMFG gun pickup instead of the default OMFG ammo pickup, and it'll respawn after a set time, making it so only one person can have the OMFG at a time. This would make holding the center of the vent advantageous, as the enemy team wouldn't be able to get the OMFG until they cleared it. Could see some dropship action dropping some heavy vehicle in the vent to lock it down.

[captainsnarf]

Just change the teleporters. You shouldn't be able to teleport from your primary to opposite bedroom. It should only go to your bedroom

The teleporters were put in because without them, the sniper crowd just sits in a mech or such and zaps every flyer coming... and then the map stalemates even worse....

No, that is why the attic was put in.

[Enyo]

Just change the teleporters. You shouldn't be able to teleport from your primary to opposite bedroom. It should only go to your bedroom

The teleporters were put in because without them, the sniper crowd just sits in a mech or such and zaps every flyer coming... and then the map stalemates even worse....

No, that is why the attic was put in.

I think you're both correct in a way.

The attic only drops you out in the first bedroom, so it gets you across the map to those far bedrooms more easily, but you still have to fly through the door of the second bedroom with 1/4 in it. A link or flak mech could just sit on the bed spamming every flyer that comes through the door.

The light teleports made it so people on foot could get there as an alternative to flying in, and from the light you can LG the mechs. But giving foot soldiers a constant supply of OMFGs near the teleport turns it into a contest of which team's player can make it over there with the OMFG first. I got frustrated with it because El Commandante finally found the one thing in UT he's good at and I can never seem to get anyone else on my team to do it. So I've ended up doing the OMFG light dance the last several times playing HSH and it's become repetitive and boring.

Removing the OMFG or moving it to the center vent plus limited pickup and ammo will still make it effective for killing the middle node, but will prevent constant spamming of the 1/4 nodes.